Tanczos Istvan

22 October, 2001

Greetings and Commendations unto the Heralds and Pursuivants of the East Kingdom and others who receive this letter from Tanczos Istvan, Eastern Crown Herald

This is the Letter of Report (LoR) on the East's Internal Letter of Intent (ILOI) 2001-02. Accepted submissions listed in this letter have been sent to Blue Tyger Herald, to be included in an External Letter of Intent (XLoI) to Laurel and the College of Arms.

Note: The date of this letter does not reflect the actual date of decision for these submissions.

In Service,

Istvan Eastern Crown

1. Abigail of Lorraine - new name accept & new device accept

Azure, a cradle within an orle of 12 thimbles argent.

While both the submitted name and submitted device were acceptable, payment was only received for one item. Accordingly, we will be sending the name to Laurel, and holding the device pending receipt of payment for the other item or proof of same.

2. Aetheric Lindberende - new badge return

[Fieldless] A tyger rampant gules armed and langued Or.

Badge for the Company Of The Red Tyger

Device conflicts with Kazimir Petrovich Pomeshanov, "A tyger sejant erect gules." There is no difference for rampant vs. sejant erect, per this precedent: "By SCA precedent, there's no difference between rampant and sejant erect. The only real change is the placement of a hind leg. (Killian Nc Iain VcFarland, June, 1992, pg. 4)". No difference is granted for the tincture of the arming and languing. This leaves only the one CD for the absent field.

3. Amanda of Stonemarche - new name accept & new device return

Purpure, a unicorn rampant argent.

Device conflicts with Janusch der Wasserman, "Azure maily Or, a unicorn salient argent." There is no difference for rampant vs salient. There is a CD for the field, but maily is, as a field treatment, considered part of the field and so does not obtain a second CD.

4. Andreas Kalisiensis - new device accept

Barry bendy gules and argent, a spaniel rampant sable maintaining an arrow Or and a tressure pean.

Cockers and other small spaniels were not bred until the 1800's, making the Cocker well out of period. However, this critter doesn't really look all that much like a Cocker Spaniel (either English or American) except in the chest area (actually it kind of looks more like a bob-tailed tyger), but one could blazon it simply as a Spaniel which would avoid the period issue, since The larger Spaniels were popular hunting dogs in period

5. Anne le Guest - new name accept

The argument that the "de" here is the Dutch definite article may work, but would require that the spelling of "Guest" be documented in Dutch. Since this is not provided, we have matched the language to the documentation.

6. Antony Martin de Schefeld - new other name return & new badge return

Household name: Company of the Northern Sun

Sable, on a sun Or an arrow bendwise sinister sable, a borduer argent.

This submission does not follow the rules for households and no commenters could provide sufficient documentation. It most closely resembles a military company or inn sign name, but it is not concrete enough for either. "Northern" is a particular direction, but you could not look at a sun on a sign or banner and tell whether it was a "northern sun" or a "southern sun". If period examples can be found, they need to be attached to any re-submission. The submitter should study the rules for submission, Part III, section 2.b.iv before resubmitting, and should submit documentation that the naming pattern being used in the submission was actually used in period.

The bordure is extremely thin. It is inherently subjective when thin is too thin, but this is very thin. There is at least one conflict, so the submitter has the opportunity to widen the bordure when he resubmits. The clearest conflict is with Kourost Bernard of the East Woods, "Sable, a sun eclipsed sable." A sun is not a voidable charge eligable for RfS X.4.j.ii., so we need two changes to any tertiary to get a CD. A sun eclipsed in the SCA style is considered a sun charged with a roundel. So there is only a change for type of tertiary, insufficient for a CD. This leaves only the one CD for the bordure.

7. Artus Bayn - resub name accept

8. Brianna of Bywater - new name change accept

Name Change to Marion Macgregor

9. Cadelyn verch Angharad - new badge accept

Vert, an eagle displayed maintaining a longbow and a sheaf of arrows argent, a bordure erminois

This is, minus the maintained charges, a bird and a bordure. This likely conflicts with John of Ean Airgead, called the Mad Celt "Vert, a chimney swift migrant palewise argent [Chaetura pelagica]." While we generally give a CD between the eagle/falcon/hawk group and other specifc birds, we do not against generic birds. This will require a visual comparison, but I suspect that the old submission's bird is generic. If this is the case, there is only the one CD for the bordure. As such, we are sending this to Laurel for the comparison.

10. Christian le Faire - new name accept

In modern French, the gender of the article ("the") matches the gender of the word it is relating to, not the gender of the person so named. In this case, since the provided documentation also matches our modern French prejudices, we are changing the gender of the article from the submitted la.

11. Christina Elisabeth Spicewell - new name accept & new device accept

Per pale wavy argent and azure, a griffin sejant contourny sinister forleg raised and a lymphad counterchanged.

While we find "Spicewell" to be unlikely as an occupational surname, several epithets are listed in J{o'}ns{o'} of the form {verb}-wel, including "Waitwel" (probably a servant). As such, we have to find 'spice' used as a verb in period, and the OED cites it as such in 1377.

As a minor point of blazonry, griffins don't have forepaws. Their forelegs are those of eagles, which end in talons. This would be better blazoned as the foreleg. Also, there is no <e> in contourny.

12. Christopher of Haslingden - new name accept & new device accept

Quarterly, sable and gules, all platy.

Christopher can be found in Withycomb under the heading 'Christopher'. Christofre Crease 1450, Crysteffor Johnson 1491, Christouer Hobye 1483, Christofur 1513.

Haslingden can be found in Reaney & Wilson, 3rd Edition under the heading 'Hazelden', "from ...Haslingden (Lanc)" Alexander de Haselindene 1258 Kirkstall (Y). Haslingden survives as a town in Lancaster near the Yorkshire border.

Device conflicts with the attributed arms of Merlyn "Sable, platy". Since Merlyn's device is not currently protected by Laurel, the submission is acceptable.

13. Cian MacFhearghuis - new name accept & new device accept

Quarterly embattled azure and argent, in bend sinister a thistle proper and a lymphad furled bannered fore and a pennant on the mast vert.

14. Concordia of the Snows, Barony of - new name return & new badge accept

Order name: Snowberg

[Fieldless] On a gauntlet fesswise per fess Or and argent, a tyger passant azure.

RfSIII.2.b. requires that "Branch names, names of orders and awards, heraldic titles, and household names must consist of a designator that identifies the type of entity and at least one descriptive element." There is no clear designator in this submission. The subtext to the rule notes that "The designator may be included as part of a one-word name if the authorized form was used that way in period, like the English word shire, which appears as a part of the one-word name Worcestershire." One might argue that -berg serves that role here, but one would need a pretty good justification of why this might be the case. As none is provided, and none was found by commenters, this must be returned.

15. Cynyr Aneirin - new name accept & new device accept

Per bend gules and sable, a bend between 3 arrows fesswise argent and a bell Or.

16. Dominic Seymour - new name accept & new device accept

Barry wavy of six argent and azure a dragon's head couped, in base three gouts sable.

Dominick is found in Withycomb under the heading 'Dominick': Domenyk 15c. "Never common in England, since the reformation has been used almost exclusively by Roman Catholics." and in Reaney & Wilson under 'Dominick': Robert Domenyk 1405, William Domynyck 1545. "never a common name in England."

Seymour is also found in Reaney & Wilson. 'Seymour' p 402. shows a number of older spellings. also, Jane Seymour d 1537, 3rd wife of Henry viii, her father Sir John, 1476-1576, and her several brothers, all notables in the tudor and elizabethan period (none is a Dominick).

17. East Kingdom - new heraldic title accept

Heraldic title: Schwartzturm Herald

18. Einarr Saelingr - new name accept & new device return

Quarterly argent and sable, a bend gules.

Device conflicts with Baden: "Or, a bend gules." with only one CD for the field.

19. Elisabetta Rosa - new name accept & new device accept

Per bend sinister sable and Or, in bend sinister 3 roses between a dagger fesswise reversed and a dagger fesswise, all counterchanged.

Withycombe lists Elizabeth and its variants on pp. 99-100. `Rosa' is found in _Italian Names in Florence_, 1437 [Ferrante; St. Gabriel].

20. Esa inghean Talorcan mac Dubh - new name accept & new device accept

Argent, three badgers statant azure.

Accepted with change to Esa inghean mhic Dubh as per email conversation with submitter. Will attach printout of same to Laurel packet.

21. Fiadhnait inghean Ciaragain - new device accept

Per chevron sable and azure, a chevron engrailed between two decrescents argent and a sun Or.

22. Garth Guntarsson - new device return

Gyronny arched of eight argent and sable a bezant and bordure Or.

Device conflicts with Ciaran of Beresruth, "Barry indented of eight argent and vert, a bezant within a bordure Or." Even these rather dramatic changes to the field are worth only the one CD.

23. Gunther Engelhaus - new name accept & new device accept

Per chevron gules and sable, a chevron between in chief three roses pierced by swords palewise and in base a tower embattled argent.

Bahlow's Mittelhochdeutsches Namenbuch, p. 14 cites "Gunther:...die Ritter Gunther von Hugewicz 1240, Gunther v. Bibersteyn 1280...".

Found in Brechenmacher, in period: Backhaus; Ellinghaus (1683); "Vieh(h)auser, =haus"; and Kaufhaus. These, combined with the number of Engel- names in Brechenmacher (Engelsohn, -mann, -freid, -becht, -herr) lead me to accept this submission with a minor spelling change.

24. Iago el Matador del Pesco - new name accept & new device accept

Per saltire sable and purpure, a newt fesswise Or.

Accepted with changed name Santiago Pescador as per conversation with client, since this is a much more plausible 16th century name.

25. Isabella of York - new device accept

Per fess gules and argent, on a fess sable between three roses Or seeded gules barbed sable and a pomengranate slipped gules seeded Or a crocodile statant Or.

26. Iuliana inghean Dhomhnaill - new name accept & new device accept

Sable a lion passant and a bordure Or, in base nine ermine spots in fess argent.

27. Jane of Milford - new name accept & new device return

Argent, a turtle azure.

Device conflicts with Nicolete de Brabant, "Argent, a turtle tergiant azure a bordure sable." There is only the one CD for the bordure.

28. Jeannine de Bordeaux - new name accept & new device return

Vert, in dexter chief a fleur de lis bendwise sinister, in sinister chief , a fleur de lis bendwise, and in base, a fleur de lis inverted, overall an orle argent.

This is better blazoned as an orle flory at the points or an orle flory at the corners or best of all, simply an orle flory. The advantage of the last blazon is that it leaves the number and placement of the flory bits up to the artist and avoids the question of how this would be depicted on, say, a lozenge or a square banner. Alas, this is not registerable. Bruce made the relevant ruling: "The orle flory has been disallowed for SCA use: it's too reminiscent of the double tressure flory counter-flory, which is an augmentation from the Scots crown. This precedent has been affirmed as recently as the LoAR of Sept 89. Indeed, given period renditions of the arms of Scotland with an orle flory instead of a double tressure flory counter-flory (e.g. Siebmacher, plate 2), and given a recent statement from the Lyon Office of Scotland declining to register orles flory without the Queen's express command, the precedent seems worth keeping. (Patrick Drake, August, 1993, pg. 19)"

29. Jorge Branco de Arrancada - new name accept & new device return

Azure, a fox passant argent, in chief three mullets Or.

This is not a good 12th century name, but it is an acceptable 16th century name. Since we have no ideas on how to make it acceptable in the 12th century, we're passing it in this form. Arrancada is a valley in Portugal, inhabited since Roman times.

Device conflicts with Renata von Hentzau, "Azure, a fox courant reguardant argent, in chief three mullets Or." There is at most one CD for the posture of the fox, and likely not even that.

30. Joseph D'Aremand - new device accept

Per bend sinister gules and azaure, a crescent and a wing sinister Or.

31. Julien Lapointe - new name accept & new device return

Gules, three Greek letters Pi, Or.

Device conflicts with An Tir, Kingdom of "Vert, the letters X, L, C, two and one, Or." with only one CD for the field.

32. Karl von Aschehyrst - new name accept & new device accept

Per pale wavy argent and sable, a sea-dog rampant counterchanged.

33. Katerina Drachenklaue - new name change accept

Name change to Aikateríne Lukanina

34. Mairi Asan T'Eilean Sgithenach - new name accept & new device accept

Vert, a toy top Or, a stripe [purpure].

No documentation was provided for the name, and none of the commenters could find anything that would actually support this name in this form. Mairi is certainly "bitter", but did not appear in the desired area until approximately the 12th century, and the remainder of the name is not particularly supportable as being from the desired culture and time period either. Locative bynames are exceptionally rare in Gaelic -- patronymics being much more common. The closest we could find to the desired byname is "cum plebe Sceth" or "cum plebe Scith", but this is in either Latin or Gaelic. The modern nomniative form would be 't-Eilean Sgiathanach'. Since it may be possible to change this to a registerable name, we are forwarding this to Laurel

Since we have not found a 'top' registered in the SCA, this would be the defining instance. Since this is the case, we are required to have documentation that this depiction is actually of a medieval shape of a top, and not a modern one. Documentation can be had in the Brueghel painting "Young Folk at Play (Children's Games)", detail of the 'tops' section of which can be seen at http://www.ahs.uwaterloo.ca/~museum/Brueghel/tops.html. So this is undoubtedly a period form of a top, since the painting was done in 1560. The design of the stripe in the emblazon may be a problem. One commenter mentioned that it may be designed to give a three-dimensional appearance to the top, which is not something that was done in period heraldry, but we are giving the submitter the benefit of the doubt.

35. Nanesh Ivanovich - resub name accept & pended device accept

Gules, on a chevron between three wolves rampant to sinister argent, two swords points to center sable.

36. Nixus Gladius Onerosus - new name return & new device pend

Argent, in fess a chevron enhanced azure, a snake sable.

According to commenters, this is not a likely Roman name in this form. Since the name was not documented and none of the commenters can provide submitting documentation, we must return this. The device is fine and will be pended awaiting a passable name submission.

Nixus is not a likely praenomen (though it would be a decent Nomen). Onerosus is not a good cognomen. A suggestion was made that 'Honerus Nixus Gladius' would be a good name, fitting the praenomen-nomen-cognomen pattern.

37. Petrus filius Silvein - new name accept & new device accept

Vert, two salmon hauriant embowed addorsed and a bordure Or.

38. Phillip Reed - new name accept & new device accept

Gules, on a bend between two fleams argent, three fleurs-de-lys palewise gules.

39. Qutudei Ba'arin - new name accept & new device accept

Gules, two slipped plum flowers in fess argent, that to sinister inverted.

40. Rupert the Unbalanced - new device accept

Or, a chevron gules between in chief two pairs of arrows inverted in saltire and in base three goblets one and two sable.

The SCA does not register single dimunatives of ordinaries, thus this is a chevron, not a chevronel. The chevron should be drawn wider.

41. Serena Caterina di Tommaso - new name accept & new device return

Azure, a fret argent.

The fret is badly drawn. The field should show through between the saltire and mascle portions of the fret. This problem, in itself, would have been sufficient grounds for a return. Additionaly, the following conflicts were found, any of which would have independently caused a return :

Kathleen MacCormick: "Azure, within a fret four lozenges ployé argent." with one CD for the addition of the lozenges.

Otto Blauschild: "Azure, a fret argent, a bordure ermine." with one CD for the addition of the bordure.

Meredudd Brangwyn: "Per saltire gules and pean, a fret argent." with one CD for the change of field.

42. Sigurðr Vigahamarr - new name accept & new device return

Per fess dancetty of three vert and sable, in chief a mullet of eight points argent.

Dancetty is not used this way, as a complex line of division. Rather, it applies to ordinaries which dance across the shield. This per fess line is merely called indented. SCA blazon does not usually specify the number of indentations. In any case, this conflicts with Ulrich Drachendonner, "Tierced in pall azure, gules, and sable, in chief a compass star argent." No difference is granted between many-pointed mullets, including compass stars, and both are in chief. This leaves but the one CD for the field.

43. Tessa Cheval - new name change accept

Name change to Theresa Boncheval

44. Thomas Loch - new name accept & new device accept

Per bend sinister argent and vert, a cross formy gules and a thistle argent.

45. Thorolf Egillsen - new badge accept

Or, an ogress within an annulo of eight billets azure all conjoined.

We are reblazoning this as "Or, an octogon sable within and conjoined to eight billets in annulo azure.", as we can not find an 'ogress' (a sable roundel) in the submission.

46. Tina of Lorraine - new name accept

47. Wynfrið {oe}t Huntandune - new name accept & new device accept

Or, two bendlets sable, overall a lion sejant erect, double queued gules, a bordure embattled sable.

Given name of St. Boniface (c. 675 - 754). Funk & Wagnalls New Encyclopedia, 1996, vol. 4 p. 214,cites under the heading Boniface "Born Winfrid or Wynfrith in Crediton, Devonshire..." and "The Barbarian Conversion" by Richard Fletcher (Henry Holt & Co., New York. 1997) cites on p. 204 "Boniface was born in Wessex in about 680: his given name was Wynfrith.". Note that it's Saxon, even though the sources disagree on his place of birth.

Comments: Withycombe p. 294, OE man's name `Winfrith' under `Winifred'. Reaney & Wilson p.187, Huntingdon: Eustace de Huntedune, de Huntendone 1086; Humphrey de Huntendun 1202; William de Huntinton 1208; Robert Huntyngdon 1375 ; there are a number of places called `Huntingdon' in England.