Lewis Tanzos
Eastern.crown@eastkingdom.org

20 January, 2002

Greetings and commendations unto the Heralds and Pursuivants of the East Kingdom from Tanczos Istvan, Eastern Crown Herald!

This is the Letter of Report (LoR) on the Internal Letter of Intent (IloI) number 2001-05, dated 2 October, 2001. Acceptances on this letter have been sent to Blue Tyger Herald, to be included in an External Letter of Intent (XloI) to Laurel and the College of Arms.

In service,

Istvan Eastern Crown


the text in bold italics is the documentation from the original submission, the normal text after it is Eastern Crown's commentary on the decision.

1. Edward Glass - new badge accepted
(Fieldless) A pair of eyeglasses sable.

The glasses are not 'folding'. They are also straight out of the PicDic.

2. Emme Attewater - new name accepted & new device accepted
Azure, an alewife naiant argent and in base a ford.

Emme: Withycombe p 103; Attewater: R&W pp18-19, variant of Attwater

Withycombe dates Emme to 1440, and R&W dates; Atewatr to 1198.

3. Gericke von Keger - new name accepted & new device accepted
Argent, a wolf's head cabossed sable a bordure indented purpure.

Gericke from Bahlow, p166 s.n. Gericke 'see Gerke'; Gerke p 166 'Gereke around 1250-1350'; von Keger - Brechenmacker L&K p 24 s.n. Keger 'S. Kagerer 1273 Ruodder Keger'; s.n. Kager(er) p2, '1501 Kager, s Keger'; 'Kager'(20 malinBay)

4. Gregor Klöwenhammer - new name accepted & new device accepted
Or, a pale sable between two wiverns displayed azure.

Gregor from Gwynek's Medieval German Given Names from Silesia, cited to 1389; Klöwenhammer from Bahlow, header form, 'Jan Clofhammer, Danzig, 1377'

5. Hagbarðr leðrfótr - new name accepted & new device accepted
Argent, an anvil and in chief three mullets one and two azure.

Geirr Bassi has Hagbarðr, and the following: Leorháls 'leather neck', Langháls 'long neck', Fótr 'foot, leg' amalgamated to make 'leather foot'

Hagbarðr is on p 10 of Geirr-Bassi, as a male given name. The actual citation from Geirr Bassi lists leðrhals. This means that the proper form of the submitted byname is leðrfótr. Since Norse bynames are usually not capitalized, we have made the byname lowercase.

6. Henry Balsac Dumass - new name accepted & new device accepted
Argent, a heart voided sable within an orle of grapevine proper.

Henry from Dauzat p324 & Morlet p 506-7 variant of Henri M. dates to 10th C; Balsac from Morlet p72 s.n. Balzac (variant sp) a town from Roman times (Ballitiacum); Dumas(s) from Morlet p359 & Dauzat p221 s.n. Dumas from 'Delmas' meaning 'of the mansion' Latin mansus -> OF mas.

This form of the locative in the surname is odd, and may not be registerable. We are also leaving the decision of whether or not to disallow this name for offensiveness to Laurel. As regards the device: the style of framing with a plant wreath is atypical of period heraldry, but allowable in the SCA. Hearts are a voidable charge, and voided charges are allowed in the center of the field.

7. John Marshall of Hartshorn-dale - new name accepted & new device accepted
Azure, a squirrel and on a chief Or a fork and spoon in saltire azure.

John from Withycombe s.n. John 'a fairly common English name in the 12th-15th C; Marshall - R&W s.n. Marshall et al 'le mareschall' dated to c.1140 also de Bracton's 'A Statistical Survey of Given Names in Essex Co. England 1182-1272' - Marshal; Hartshorn-Dale branch name registered 8/88

Submitted as "John Marshall of Hartshorn Dale", the group name is registered at Hartshorn-dale, thus that is how we must accept this name. Sejant erect is the default for squirrels, so we can leave it out of the blazon. In this posture, the squirrel is frequently drawn holding a nut between its forepaws, though it is not usually explicitally blazoned.

8. Kassandra Aiantos - new name accepted & new device accepted
Gules, in fess three demi-snakes erect within a bordure embattled Or.

Kassandra from Withycombe p59 listed as 'classical Greek name revived in England'; Aiantos - Greek 'daughter of Ajax' submission sheet says 'construction done by Prof Wolfgang Haase from Boston University'.

While we feel this is an acceptable Greek construction for the SCA, we know nothing about the gentleman, not even if he is a professor. (Actually, he's listed on their website as a professor of classics) In the future, a letter from the cited authority, including a list of qualifications that might convince us they know what they're talking about should be attached. You must convince Eastern Crown that you know what you're talking about with actual documentation, not just unfounded assertations. This is because the Eastern College of Heralds must turn around and try to justify the submission to the SCA College of Arms, and we can't do that without non-anecdotal documentation.

The only difference between these 'demi-snakes' and normal snakes is the fact that they're couped at the bottom. We do not consider this change to be significant in terms of difference. Even with this limitation, we find nothing that conflicts.

9. Katarina Scryvner - new name accepted & new device accepted
Vert, on a bend wavy argent, three gouttes sable.

Katarina a proposed variant on 'Katerina' dated to 1196 in Withycombe, p187 St 'Katharine' dated to 1148, 'Katerina' dated to 1196; Scryvner - dated to 1218, OED dated to mid 15th C

10. Kateline Hicch - new name accepted & new device accepted
Argent, a brown falcon close belled and jessed proper a bordure engrailed azure.

Kateline from Withycombe s.n. Katharine dates this spelling to 1273; Hicch from R&W s.n. Hitch dates this spelling to 1279

11. Kirsten Dystel - new name accepted & new badge accepted
(Fieldless) On a flame a thistle proper.

Kirsten from Bahlow, header form, cites 'Kirsten von Kanth' to Brussels 1328; Dystel from Brechenmacher, header form, p318, Distel in 1350

We do not believe this to be overuse of proper -- a flame proper is not naturalistic depiction, and a thistle proper is heraldic shorthand for 'a thistle purpure/gules slipped and leaved vert'.

The primary concern for conflict is with Annette of Faire Monte, "A flame slipped and leaved with thistle leaves, all proper", registered in 1979. We have no depiction, so no way to tell if they conflict. Laurel will have to make this call.

12. Kirsten Dystel - new household name accepted & new badge accepted
Submitted Name: House Draco Mercatoria
(Fieldless) A dragon passant contourny vert maintaining a bag Or.

Client wishes name to mean 'The Merchanting Dragon'; All docs from New College Latin & English Dictionary; Draco 'Dragon'; Mercatoria - adj. 'Merchant, trading' Navis Mercatoria 'merchant ship'

13. Leonardo Giovanni - new name accepted & new device accepted
Per bend argent and vert, a single-horned anvil sable.

Leonardo from Castato (1427 Florence) lists Leonardo as a male given name; Giovanni from same, lists Giovanni as a patronymic

This device should be clear of that of Samuel the Steadfast "Gyronny gules and argent, an anvil standing upon a square block sable" as the block is large enough to be a co-primary, clearing this with two CD's -- one for the field, one for the addition of a primary charge.

There is, however, a possible problem with Richard of Black Iron "Argent, a single-horned anvil reversed sable, enflamed proper." There is one CD for the field. There may or may not be a CD for the change of facing. There may or may not be one for the enflaming -- Laurel has not been consistent on this over the years and tenures. We're pretty sure there's not a CD for the change of facing, but the possible one for the enflaming is enough to justify sending it to Laurel.

14. Líadain inghean uí Cheallaigh - new name accepted

Líadain - O'CM s.n. Líadaan - Liadan was the name of the mother of St. Ciarán the Sier. Also the name of one of the patron saints of the Dál Cais; Ó Cellaigh (s.n.) from Woulfe - A chief of this family (Tadh Mor Ó Cellaigh) fell at Clontarf ni 1014. Conghalach Ó Cellaigh, last lord of Breagh, died in 1292

inghean uí is the proper post-1200's feminine form of "Ó"

15. Lothar Ranglátr - new name pended & new device pended
Gules, three boar's heads couped close to sinister Or.

Lothar from Bahlow's Dictionary of German Names: Lothar is header form p 344. Cited Emperor Lothar II as example. Ranglátr from Geirr Bassi p. 26 translates as 'unjust, vicious' There is some discussion of what the last name should be due to the submitter's desire for a specific meaning. We are pending this until we can contact the submitter.

16. Ludwig von Eisburg - new name accepted & new device accepted
Per pale gules and sable, two axes reversed and a fox passant to sinister argent.

Ludwig appears in 'Late Period German Masculine Given Names' by Talan Gwynek as first appearing in 1401-1450; Eisburg is in two parts - 'burg' means 'fortified city' or 'castle' c.f. Hamburg. The element Eis- can be found in Bahlow in Eisfeld (undated) and Eis(en)bein (though all dated cites have Eisen-) and in Bahlow Geographiche Eisbach (s.n. Eisenbach) undated. In addition, Bahlow lists (s.n. Eis(en)berg) Ysenberg in 1332

17. Luis de Castilla - new name accepted & new device accepted
Gules, a tower argent masoned sable, on a chief argent three Maltese crosses gules.

Luis and de Castilla both from Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century by Juliana de Luna

In particular, in the documentation, Luis is listed as a male given name, and 'de Castilla' is listed as a locative surname.

18. Malcolum de Bruis - new name accepted & new device accepted
Vert, two maces in saltire between three thistles argent.

Malcolum from Withycombe p 204 dated to 1086. R&W p 69 s.n. Bruce dates this form to 1086. Woulfe p 249 has de Brús

19. Mare Wischart - new name accepted & new device accepted
Vert, on a bend engrailed between two annulets Or three cinquefoils azure.

Mare from Gwynek 'A List of Feminine Personal Names From Scottish Records, pt 3'; Wischart from Black, header, dated to 1545

20. Maria de Miranda - new name accepted

María from 'Apellidos Castellanos Leoness' header form p 236, dated to 925; di Miranda from 'Catalogo de Pasajeros Indias' vol 2-3

Submitted as María de Miranda (the accent is on the i). As the submitter desires a 14th century name, we have removed the accent.

21. Meliora Cnox - new name accepted & new device accepted
Or, an equal-armed Celtic cross gules and a chief potenty sable.

Melora from Withycombe p 217 header Melior(a) dated between 1218 and 1346. Cnox from Black Header Knox dated to 1272

This name is not at all Irish. It is entirely plausible as an English name. As far as we know, women did not change their names to match their husbands in 14th century England, nor did they do it at all in period in Ireland. The custom apparently only arrived there in the 19th century. This, of course, is only relevant to authenticity and not registration.

22. Moira Fennor of Argyll - new name accepted & new device accepted
Gules, a bend sinister checky argent and gules fimbriated Or between two mermaids proper crined & crowned Or maintaining a shield and trident sable.

Court Barony 1996 in Atlantia. Moira from OCM s.n. Maire. Fionnbharr from OCM s.n. Finnbarr; Argyll from Johnsten s.n. Argyle - gyll header form in Johnsten

Submitted as Moira Fionnbhar of Argyll. Moira is SCA-compatible, it is not a period name. The citation from O'Corrain and Maguaire does not date it to period, it dates it to modern day. However, it was ruled SCA-compatible on the LoAR of 6/97, p7 by Jaelle. Since the combination of this and the mixed English-Gaelic orthography of the first two names would have been cause for return, we have translated the the name entirely to English.

23. Moira MacDonald - new name accepted & new device accepted
Sable, on a chief argent a rose purpure between two roses sable

Moira is SCA-compat LoAR 6/97, p7; MacDonald is form of MacDomnaill (header), in 1571

24. Mwynwen in le Willewys - new name accepted & new device accepted
Or, three arrows in pile sable, gules and sable, in chief a Bourchier knot entwined of strands sable and gules.

Mwynwen from 'Given names from P.C. Bartrum in y Camamseraid by Keridwen Ferch Morgan Glas Fryn, issue 1; in le Willewys dated to 1290 under header 'Willows' in R&W (p494)

25. Nastagia Fioravanti - new name accepted

Nastagia from 'Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence from 1427' by Arval; Fioranti from 'Family Names Appearing in the Catasto of 1427'

26. Nest verch Tangwistel - new name accepted

Both names appear in 'A simple guide to constructing 13th century Welsh names' by Heather Rose Jones; verch is 'daughter of'

In particular, Nest and Tangwistel are both listed as feminine given names. Though 'fillia' was used in the actual source documentation, 'verch' is acceptable for the time and place - the article says that it was used less than 1% of the time, but it was used, and that's good enough for registration.

27. Njall of Fur - new name accepted & new device accepted
Argent, three oat-garbs azure.

Njall ni Geirr Bassi p 13, Fur is a small island in Denmark [NDP]

We know that Fur is an island in Denmark in the modern day, but we have been unable to discover if the name of the island is actually period. As such, we are passing it to Laurel in the hope that someone will be able to provide documentation.

Bahlow's Place Names has Furra as a header spelling, with with the form Furari dated to 874. It is not the same place, but this could be a possible alternate if Fur is not documentable to period.

28. Olrik van Lubbeke - new name accepted

Academy of St. Gabriel report #2180 [PCA]

Olric is dated to 1272/1330. in R. Zoder's Familiennamen in Ostfalen. 2 vols. (Hildesheim: 1968) pp. 27, 46, 56.; van Lubbeke is dated to 1462 in Hans Bahlow's Deutsches Namenlexikon: Familien- und Vornamen nach Ursprung und Sinn erklaert (Frankfurt am Main : Suhrkamp Taschenbuch Verlag, 1985, 1990). s.nn. Lübbe, Schiffmann.

29. Owain ap Bran - new name accepted & new device returned
Gyronny vert and Or, a mullet of four points and a bordure counterchanged.

CA#66 p 31 lists Owain as a male give name; CA#66 lists Bran as a male given name on p 30. ap is the standard Welsh patronymic.

In line with the Laurel precedent of Rowan O Moroghoe, 10/96, we are returning this for excessive counterchanging. The returned device was "Per saltire, a saltire cotised counterchanged", which is actually less complex that this submission. It is also in line with the August 2001 decision to return "Quarterly sable and argent, on a cross throughout between four unicorns rampant five mullets of eight points all counterchanged." for excessive counterchanging. By far the most relevant, though, is the decision in the case of John Michael Midwinter, 10/2000: [Gyronny gules and Or, a lozenge counterchanged] In general, charges should not be counterchanged over a gyronny field, but given the extreme simplicity of the charge, and that there is only one charge, we find this acceptable. Given that the new submission is two charges, even though they are extremely simple, we feel justified in this return.

30. Rainillt Leia de Bello Marisco - new name pended & new device pended
Vert, two coneys combattant and on a chief wavy argent, a dragon passant gules.

Name documented from an email from Tangwystyl, except for Leia, which is from Morgan & Morgan, p145 - 'an epithet for the smallest or youngest member of the family'.

The submitter has contacted us about changing the armory, but we can not find the request in question. We are pending both name and armory until we can get in contact with her again. Rainillt is a daughter of Gruffudd ap Cynan, who lived in the early 12th or late 11th century. Documented from "Ach au Brenhinoedd a Thywysogion Cymru" (Lineages of the kings and princes of Wales) #8d, a text in various 16th-17th century manuscripts. There is a "Villa de Bello Marisco" found in the record of Caernarvon (a collection of transcripts of various medieval records relating to Caernarvon and the environs, published in 1838 by the Public Records Comission. p17 - "Cast' & Villa de Bello Marisco", apparently from the late 13th or early 14th century.

31. Rhys of Ravenhill - resub device accepted
Quarterly argent and vert, a raven sable charged with a broadarrow argent maintaining a grenade sable enflamed Or.

Previous device returned for conflict, this device adds the 'broadarrow'

32. Ríán MacFaoitigh - new name accepted & new device accepted
Sable, a pale counter-ermine fimbriated argent between in chief two lozenges argent.

Ríán from OCM p155 shows it as a header form; Woulfe p631 s.n. ó Riagain shows that O Rian was used in the Elizabethan / Jacobite period.; MacFaoitigh from Surnames of Ireland p299 header MacWhite shows MacFaoitigh

33. Robert Tyrrell - new name returned & new device pended
Sable, a sword inverted argent piercing a heart inverted Or and on a chief argent three crosses formy gules.

Robert from Withycombe p 254-5 s.n. Robert '...and Robin, a diminutive form of Rob, was in the 13th C more usual than Robert itself' Robert(us) dated 1086; Tyrrell from R&W p449 s.n. Tirrell, Tyrrell is one of the header spellings Terryll is dated 1568, Tirell dated 1153

This name is in conflict with the registered "Roberta Tyrell" (10/89, East). The device will be held pending a name resubmission.

34. Robin McLaran of Nordenhalle - new name accepted & new device accepted
Or, a lynx passant contourny gules and in chief a sprig of greenery fesswise reverse vert fructed purpure.

Robin from Withycombe s.n. says 'see Robert'. Robert p 254 shows Robin as diminutive(m). Robin is also submitter's given name[NDP]; McLaran from Black, p534; s.n. MacLaren dates Laran McLaran to 1592; Nordenhalle is SCA group registered 3/85

Having talked to the submitter, the blazon is not particularly important. Even if we blazon this as 'a sprig of greenery vert fructed purpure', she will be satisfied to know for herself that it is a reference to her son, who is named 'Sage'.

35. Roger le Brouillard - new name accepted & new device accepted
Gules, in chevron seven mullets between three lions rampant Or.

Roger from Withycombe p255 s.n. Roger cites Roger(i)us 1071-5, DB1086, Cur 1186-1220, HR 1273; le Brouillard from Dauzat, p70 s.n. Brouillard & Morlet, p144 s.n. Broillart shows Brouillard - seems to be adj. form based on town name

36. Samuel of Yorkshire - new name accepted & new device accepted
Gyronny gules and argent, eight roses counterchanged.

Samuel from Withycombe as s.n. Surname dated to 1273, given 1562; Yorkshire from Mills p399 s.n. York: Torkshire (OE Scir 'district') is first referred to in the 11th C; also Yorkshire in Ekwall

We feel that there is no prohibition of the use of white roses in conjunction with a name incorporating 'Yorkshire' in the SCA, the prohibition is solely for 'of York'. The limitation of the prohibibition is quite clear in the precedent for Christopher of York, December 1992, p7 - "The use of the white rose of York with the byname `of York' has been disallowed since the LoAR of 11 Nov 77."

37. Sancha de Flores - new name accepted

Sancha from http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/miguel/sahagun/sahagunNames3.html#names - Medieval Spanish Names from the Monastery of Sahagun by Antonio Miguel Santos de Borja (Tony Borning); de Flores from de Luna - Spanish names from the late 15th C, gives this as a locative surname.

38. William Campbell - new name returned

William from Withycombe p 293, also William Shakespeare from just about anywhere. Campbell from Black's Surnames of Scotland p 129-131 'About 1390 - Duncan Campbell dominus de Gannan

There are two William Campbells with header entries in the Encyclopedia Britannica: William Wilfred Campbell, a Canadian poet, and William Wallace Campbell, an American astronomer. The CoA does not consider middle names when determining conflict against a real-world person, and an entry in the EB is usually deemed to mark them as important enough to protect. Thus, this must be returned for conflict with real-world important personages.

39. William MacKay - new name accepted & new device accepted
Per pall argent, gules, and sable, three decrescents one and two gules, Or and Or, a bordure Or.

William from Withycombe's ODECN cites William as a header on p 293, also William the Conqueror ad infinitum. MacKay from Black's Surnames of Scotland header p 522, cites Brian Vicar Mackay of Islay in 1408

40. Wulf Gray Wind - new name accepted & new device accepted
Vert, a wolf passant and on a chief argent two ravens displayed sable.

Wulf from R&W (s.n. Wofg) describes this as late OE, uncommon; Gray from R&W (s.n. Gray) dated to 1198 'William Grei' and 1296 'Sewyn le Gray'; Wind in R&W (s.n. Wind) dates to 1372 'Clement le Wynd'

This submission has two descriptive bynames in a row, which may or may not be acceptable to Laurel.

The ravens are not particularly explicitly ravens, and may be re-blazoned as 'birds' at Laurel.


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